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PostSubject: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptySun Oct 18, 2009 7:40 pm

I'm a flirty guy, very flirty and I have a very dirty mind. I make sexual jokes and remarks all the time, the people I make them to are friends, they know I'm joking and they're not quite as old as me. Between 14-16 years old. They're all really good friends of mine. Now, someone went off saying if I didn't stop talking to them they'd call the cops and like, flipped shit saying how I was disrespectful and all this other non sense. If they know I'm joking around and don't actually mean it, is there anything she can get against me? Or is even joking around about that stuff illegal?
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptySun Oct 18, 2009 8:27 pm

It might be considered harassment--anymore, 'harassment' is pretty loosely defined, pretty much up to the whim of whomever claims they're being harassed, so I'd tread carefully if I were you.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptySun Oct 18, 2009 8:50 pm

It won't look good if you can be seen as sexually harassing a minor. Things like this are generally hard to prove though. If I were you I'd just stay away from this person.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptySun Oct 18, 2009 9:00 pm

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It won't look good if you can be seen as sexually harassing a minor. Things like this are generally hard to prove though. If I were you I'd just stay away from this person.

This. Although, in these types of cases, girls (especially cute, white, virginal 14-16 year old girls) have a MAJOR upper hand.
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I'd tread carefully and probably back off for a while.

And uh, find some friends your own age.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptySun Oct 18, 2009 9:25 pm

One thing is clear, if you talk to her past the point where she said stop talking to me or I'll call the cops, you are harassing her, and the law is in her favour assuming she could prove it (like if other people saw her say it).

Before that it's less clear, depends on what you said, and her ability to prove it. Thing is it could go to court either way, and sexually harassing minors could get you the sex offender label (my friend almost got it because the cops caught him pissing outside at a concert where minors were present).

If you want to avoid the cost of a lawyer, just follow her wishes and leave her alone. Plus Lindsey is right get some friends your own age, or stop making sexual remarks to minors. Right or wrong, society would tend to look at you as the weird/creepy person in this situation.

All that being said more than likely nothing will happen, it was probably her way of saying you were making her feel uncomfortable, and if you want to be a stand up guy respect that and take it back a notch.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptySun Oct 18, 2009 9:35 pm

The fact is whether you're a flirty/dirty guy or not, you shouldn't be that way around minors. At all. It can only cause problems.

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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 4:03 am

If they bleed, they can recieve.

But seriously shit like this can really fuck you up. Is a 15+ year old a minor in the states ? In Denmark 15+ is legal, but I think it's kinda infamous if a person over 18 is with a person under 18...
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 5:11 am

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If they bleed, they can recieve.

But seriously shit like this can really fuck you up. Is a 15+ year old a minor in the states ? In Denmark 15+ is legal, but I think it's kinda infamous if a person over 18 is with a person under 18...

US is 18, UK is 16, Canada is 14, Japan is 13 (with parental consent, 18 without), Belgium/Portugal/Greece are all 14 I think.

If its a case of an 18 year old fucking a 17 year old, no court will hear of statutory rape charges as the age gap is too small.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 5:31 am

I think that the law in Canada for sexual harassment goes something like;
It isn't harassment unless the person tells you to stop. If you continue, then action can be taken against you. But like was already mentioned, it is hard to prove as well. In he said/she said matters, I don't think there is much that can be done(unless it is on the job of course, and even then it depends on a companies policy).

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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 7:36 am

In several states here in the US (including Iowa) 16 is the age of consent.

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/olrdata/jud/rpt/2003-R-0376.htm
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 9:05 am

I hardly talked to this person who said she'd do it though. I don't know where she got the idea I was disrespectful or anything, but I did stop talking to her all together and two others. Still, anything sexual I may have said, which I don't remember saying much, if any, would have been very obviously joking, like "ZOMG, WE CAN GET MARRIED AND HAS HAWT KINKEH SEX11!" Sort of thing.
The people I talked to myself, didn't tell me to stop it was someone I didn't talk to very often.

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And uh, find some friends your own age.


I have some. >.<
I met one of them through her older brother and then the others just came with FB or whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 10:03 am

In the end I believe in playground justice, if you are making lewd remarks to 14-16 yr old girls, and someone's brother/father/legal system puts the hurt on you for doing it, I'm not going to shed any tears for you.

Don't get me wrong I think you are a good enough guy, from what I've seen on the forum, but you are playing with fire.

I'm not saying you can't have friends under age, but like Dale said, you shouldn't be making lewd remarks to them.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 10:13 am

Rosalind wrote:
If its a case of an 18 year old fucking a 17 year old, no court will hear of statutory rape charges as the age gap is too small.

Tell that to America.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 10:33 am

Nautilus wrote:
Rosalind wrote:
If its a case of an 18 year old fucking a 17 year old, no court will hear of statutory rape charges as the age gap is too small.

Tell that to America.

Im including the US in that. Most states require there to be a 3 year age gap to even consider a case for court, and the others would probably toss it out before it get to the preliminary hearing.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 10:43 am

Rosalind wrote:
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If its a case of an 18 year old fucking a 17 year old, no court will hear of statutory rape charges as the age gap is too small.

Tell that to America.

Im including the US in that. Most states require there to be a 3 year age gap to even consider a case for court, and the others would probably toss it out before it get to the preliminary hearing.

There's a famous case where a 19 year old was in jail for like 10 years for having consensual sex with a 17 year old. I can't find it atm, don't remember his name.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 10:49 am

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If its a case of an 18 year old fucking a 17 year old, no court will hear of statutory rape charges as the age gap is too small.

Tell that to America.

Im including the US in that. Most states require there to be a 3 year age gap to even consider a case for court, and the others would probably toss it out before it get to the preliminary hearing.

There's a famous case where a 19 year old was in jail for like 10 years for having consensual sex with a 17 year old. I can't find it atm, don't remember his name.

Probably other circumstances. I mean, I could mention a case of a man who shoved 6 inches of bed linen down a woman's throat and only got manslaughter, but im leaving out the crucial detail that he was off his head on LSD at the time.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 10:59 am

Nautilus wrote:
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If its a case of an 18 year old fucking a 17 year old, no court will hear of statutory rape charges as the age gap is too small.

Tell that to America.

Im including the US in that. Most states require there to be a 3 year age gap to even consider a case for court, and the others would probably toss it out before it get to the preliminary hearing.

There's a famous case where a 19 year old was in jail for like 10 years for having consensual sex with a 17 year old. I can't find it atm, don't remember his name.

yeah, this happens a lot. It's unfortunate for someone to get the "sexual predator" tag over something so minor.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 2:51 pm

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Probably other circumstances. I mean, I could mention a case of a man who shoved 6 inches of bed linen down a woman's throat and only got manslaughter, but im leaving out the crucial detail that he was off his head on LSD at the time.

That's fucking disturbing silent
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 3:51 pm

I wonder why so many of you guys know pretty well about the laws of under age harrasment and such. tongue
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 4:09 pm

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I wonder why so many of you guys know pretty well about the laws of under age harrasment and such. tongue

Unlike Egypt, we actually HAVE these laws. Razz



That was mean, sorry haha.
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 5:11 pm

Lashed_by_Storm wrote:
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Probably other circumstances. I mean, I could mention a case of a man who shoved 6 inches of bed linen down a woman's throat and only got manslaughter, but im leaving out the crucial detail that he was off his head on LSD at the time.

That's fucking disturbing silent

In truth I think the guy beat himself up enough over it. The woman he killed was his fiancée...
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 5:48 pm

Rosalind wrote:
Nautilus wrote:
Rosalind wrote:
Nautilus wrote:
Rosalind wrote:
If its a case of an 18 year old fucking a 17 year old, no court will hear of statutory rape charges as the age gap is too small.

Tell that to America.

Im including the US in that. Most states require there to be a 3 year age gap to even consider a case for court, and the others would probably toss it out before it get to the preliminary hearing.

There's a famous case where a 19 year old was in jail for like 10 years for having consensual sex with a 17 year old. I can't find it atm, don't remember his name.

Probably other circumstances. I mean, I could mention a case of a man who shoved 6 inches of bed linen down a woman's throat and only got manslaughter, but im leaving out the crucial detail that he was off his head on LSD at the time.

I heard a similar story about a guy who strangled his wife/fiance with her panties while having really rough sex.


But yea, I think I'll be a bit more cautious about what I say and to whom. >.<
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 6:40 pm

I heard a story about a couple who were up all night on meth or something, and decided it would be a good idea to start pulling eachother's teeth out.

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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 7:25 pm

Bidley wrote:
I heard a story about a couple who were up all night on meth or something, and decided it would be a good idea to start pulling eachother's teeth out.

Who hasn't done that silent
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PostSubject: Re: You guys are smart..   You guys are smart.. EmptyMon Oct 19, 2009 9:32 pm

Mostafa wrote:
I wonder why so many of you guys know pretty well about the laws of under age harrasment and such. tongue

Uh, I had a friend in high school who called me "Jailbait." I also took a law class and when creepy old dudes hit on me, I'd drop the age bomb.

Now i look young, but when I was younger I looked much older.
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