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Rosalind
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Subject: Re: Switzerland banning Minarettes Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:58 pm |
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"Can you honestly say if you moved to another country you wouldn't feel more comfortable living among American immigrants and their descendants?" I can understand it to an extent, but theres a big difference between having a cluster of friends from the same location and full blown segregation. I'd want a balance; if I moved to France I wouldn't want to be cooped up in a district that only spoke english, sold pies and bangers and mash and fish and chips, secluded from the "Real France." Instead i'd want to learn the language and try to understand the country a little better, attitudes personality, tendencies and so forth, and perhaps take a breather with another fellow brit down the pub every so often. If I wasn't interested in what was already there then why move in the first place?
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son_ov_hades
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Subject: Re: Switzerland banning Minarettes Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:02 pm |
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- Rosalind wrote:
- "Can you honestly say if you moved to another country you wouldn't feel more comfortable living among American immigrants and their descendants?"
I can understand it to an extent, but theres a big difference between having a cluster of friends from the same location and full blown segregation. I'd want a balance; if I moved to France I wouldn't want to be cooped up in a district that only spoke english, sold pies and bangers and mash and fish and chips, secluded from the "Real France." Instead i'd want to learn the language and try to understand the country a little better, attitudes personality, tendencies and so forth, and perhaps take a breather with another fellow brit down the pub every so often. If I wasn't interested in what was already there then why move in the first place? Yeah we are at an agreement here.
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son_ov_hades
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Subject: Re: Switzerland banning Minarettes Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:11 pm |
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Illustrates the ridiculousness of the minaret ban perfectly!
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AarO)))n
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Subject: Re: Switzerland banning Minarettes Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:21 pm |
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- son_ov_hades wrote:
- Fair enough. I can agree to some extent, but can't get on board with you're nationalist tendencies. Understand I'm not trying to insult you, I'm just a flaming liberal and nationalism is not my thing. I do agree that communities isolating themselves is of course a bad thing, but these communities existing is fine by me. Can you honestly say if you moved to another country you wouldn't feel more comfortable living among American immigrants and their descendants?
What Thomas said. Also. Despite what I may have been saying. I am quite liberal in many of my political views. I say I am Socially Liberal and Fiscally Conservative. My days as a registered Republican may so be coming to an end as religious thought gives way to rational thought in the Republican party. I never took it as an insult too much. I mean I know I am not a xenophobe or a racist. Though some of my views can be seen as such.
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Rosalind
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Subject: Re: Switzerland banning Minarettes Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:29 pm |
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- AarO)))n wrote:
- son_ov_hades wrote:
- Fair enough. I can agree to some extent, but can't get on board with you're nationalist tendencies. Understand I'm not trying to insult you, I'm just a flaming liberal and nationalism is not my thing. I do agree that communities isolating themselves is of course a bad thing, but these communities existing is fine by me. Can you honestly say if you moved to another country you wouldn't feel more comfortable living among American immigrants and their descendants?
What Thomas said. Also. Despite what I may have been saying. I am quite liberal in many of my political views. I say I am Socially Liberal and Fiscally Conservative. My days as a registered Republican may so be coming to an end as religious thought gives way to rational thought in the Republican party. I never took it as an insult too much. I mean I know I am not a xenophobe or a racist. Though some of my views can be seen as such. In the days when drinking your coffee black can be considered offensive, EVERYTHING makes you look racist
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Ziegenbartami
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Subject: Re: Switzerland banning Minarettes Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:38 pm |
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- AarO)))n wrote:
What Thomas said. Also. Despite what I may have been saying. I am quite liberal in many of my political views. I say I am Socially Liberal and Fiscally Conservative. My days as a registered Republican may so be coming to an end as religious thought gives way to rational thought in the Republican party. I never took it as an insult too much. I mean I know I am not a xenophobe or a racist. Though some of my views can be seen as such. Perhaps you ought to consider the Libertarian Party *nudge*nudge*
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AarO)))n
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AarO)))n
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Subject: Re: Switzerland banning Minarettes Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:44 pm |
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- Ziegenbartami wrote:
- AarO)))n wrote:
What Thomas said. Also. Despite what I may have been saying. I am quite liberal in many of my political views. I say I am Socially Liberal and Fiscally Conservative. My days as a registered Republican may so be coming to an end as religious thought gives way to rational thought in the Republican party. I never took it as an insult too much. I mean I know I am not a xenophobe or a racist. Though some of my views can be seen as such. Perhaps you ought to consider the Libertarian Party *nudge*nudge* My soon happen. If Palin get the nod to go against Obama I am packing my bags faster than you can Neo-Con.
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Christoff Odendaal
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Subject: Re: Switzerland banning Minarettes Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:39 am |
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- son_ov_hades wrote:
- Yeah I didn't mean any offensive or anything. The term is so flawed though, even Australia is part of the "western" world. Sure Europe, America, Australia, and yes South Africa share a lot of common political and cultural ideas, but using a geographic descriptor doesn't really make sense.
I understand your argument, but I disagree that the type of immigration going on in western Europe is displacing European culture. You make a valid argument, and I think we're not gonna get much farther from here. Agree to disagree I guess, this was fun though. Yep, it 'twas indeed fun. Till next time
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son_ov_hades
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Subject: Re: Switzerland banning Minarettes Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:55 am |
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Rosalind
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son_ov_hades
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Rosalind
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Peter
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Subject: Re: Switzerland banning Minarettes Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:58 am |
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Pretty good article, but I really don't care about it anymore
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Christoff Odendaal
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