This is one that needed to be made I'll kick it off.

I have no idea what the difference is between a drum fill and a drum roll.

From my understanding a fill was a short interlude in the beat, a quick short burst of creativity to break things up. But isn't a roll more or less the same thing? Or does it just include use of toms (if it uses cymbals its suddenly a fill)? or is there some time limit (oops, you were half a second too long; thats now a fill)?

Bleh.

Oh, and I dont think Julian does either. Even where he once dissected the drums into describing the timbre of each individual cymbal, he still left it as "fills and rolls"

Drum fill = short little "drum solo", exactly like a guitar fill

Drum roll = a specific technique, created by rapid strokes to make a "sustained" sound as if it were a long note. It's usually like RLRLRLRLRLRLRL or RRLLRRLLRRLLRRLLRRLLRRLL, etc.

Nautilus wrote:

Drum fill = short little "drum solo", exactly like a guitar fill

Drum roll = a specific technique, created by rapid strokes to make a "sustained" sound as if it were a long note. It's usually like RLRLRLRLRLRLRL or RRLLRRLLRRLLRRLLRRLLRRLL, etc.

Usually on the snare too, amirite?

Not necessarily. Lol, timpani.

Nautilus wrote:

Not necessarily. Lol, timpani.

Timpani ist Krieg!

On occasion, I enjoy Dashboard Confessional and The Spill Canvas.

*sigh*, there I said it!

my copy of American Idiot is in my alarm clock
but you guys already know I own that album, since it was sitting next to Dreaming With The Dead in that picture

So I'm in class right now. And there's this h4wt ch1x sitting way to my right.

Confession: I'm skipping class right now because I'd rather be online, listening to music and taking a piss.

I don't know what double kick drumming is.

Genetic_Noose wrote:

I don't know what double kick drumming is.

two bass drums or one bass drum and a double kick pedal

so you can have two of these, each attached to one bass drum:
http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/quality,85/brand,zzounds/fit,400by400/p23734H-faee34dae9fb0444337983a998d4438f.jpg

or you can have one of these attached to one bass drum:
https://2img.net/h/i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/laza007/DoublePedal.jpg

EDIT: if you're looking for an example in a song, listen to the drum fill/roll/thingy right after the solo in Angel of Death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFdaiY8YhEY&feature=related

As in, they have double bass drums. It's pretty much the foundation for all modern metal.

I downloaded Suicide Silence's newest album for my older brother. I am disappoint.

Adothorr wrote:

I downloaded Suicide Silence's newest album for my older brother. I am disappoint.

Ahmedeus wrote:

Adothorr wrote:

I downloaded Suicide Silence's newest album for my older brother. I am disappoint.

I have given up on getting him into more underground metal. He's like 7 years older than me and still listens to deathcore and groove metal primarily.

Adothorr wrote:

I have given up on getting him into more underground metal. He's like 7 years older than me and still listens to deathcore and groove metal primarily.

You can lead a horse to water...

I confess that this made me
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/11/julius-andreas-gimli-arn_n_284276.html?alacarte=1

Ziegenbartami wrote:

Adothorr wrote:

I have given up on getting him into more underground metal. He's like 7 years older than me and still listens to deathcore and groove metal primarily.

You can lead a horse to water...

And then shove its face in it until it either drinks or drowns.

Rosalind wrote:

Ziegenbartami wrote:

Adothorr wrote:

I have given up on getting him into more underground metal. He's like 7 years older than me and still listens to deathcore and groove metal primarily.

You can lead a horse to water...

And then shove its face in it until it either drinks or drowns.

Whenever he asks for a deathcore cd I usually burn about 4 good death metal cds to go along with it. For some reason he liked Whitechapel more than Neoplasmah and Decapitated.

Adothorr wrote:

Rosalind wrote:

Ziegenbartami wrote:

Adothorr wrote:

I have given up on getting him into more underground metal. He's like 7 years older than me and still listens to deathcore and groove metal primarily.

You can lead a horse to water...

And then shove its face in it until it either drinks or drowns.

Whenever he asks for a deathcore cd I usually burn about 4 good death metal cds to go along with it. For some reason he liked Whitechapel more than Neoplasmah and Decapitated.

Wrong way to do it. Just slip one or two in instead of the other tracks and see if he notices. Eventually increase the number until you can say "Y'know that Ion Dissonance album you've been loving? I actually burnt you Project Hate instead."

Rosalind wrote:

Adothorr wrote:

Rosalind wrote:

Ziegenbartami wrote:

Adothorr wrote:

I have given up on getting him into more underground metal. He's like 7 years older than me and still listens to deathcore and groove metal primarily.

You can lead a horse to water...

And then shove its face in it until it either drinks or drowns.

Whenever he asks for a deathcore cd I usually burn about 4 good death metal cds to go along with it. For some reason he liked Whitechapel more than Neoplasmah and Decapitated.

Wrong way to do it. Just slip one or two in instead of the other tracks and see if he notices. Eventually increase the number until you can say "Y'know that Ion Dissonance album you've been loving? I actually burnt you Project Hate instead."

Hmm that could work..

My brothers are like that too. I've learned that Metalhead conversion is only possible if the person starts to show a genuine love for music. If they are "casual listeners", they usual fall for the catchy stuff. That too for a limited amount of time till they find another colorful artist to bob their head to.

Ahmedeus wrote:

My brothers are like that too. I've learned that Metalhead conversion is only possible if the person starts to show a genuine love for music. If they are "casual listeners", they usual fall for the catchy stuff. That too for a limited amount of time till they find another colorful artist to bob their head to.

He is a pretty die-hard fan. He's not just a casual listener. He goes to shows alot and buys alot of cd's but I guess deathcore and groove metal are his thing.

don't try converting people, you'll just make yourself look like an ass
recommend them the big bands when they ask for something, but don't force your bands on them

bleghman wrote:

don't try converting people, you'll just make yourself look like an ass
recommend them the big bands when they ask for something, but don't force your bands on them

Well he does like metal and I just wanted to try to show him more of the underground. He's the reason I'm into metal so I tried to repay the favor.